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10 Mar.,2025

 

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hi I&#;m new to this whole Ebikes thing and so I need a little bit of advice ASAP about purchasing my first E bike. I&#;ve done some research myself but it&#;s been hard going.
I am a 50 year old woman in need of an E bike in order to commute to work five days a week. ideally, what I had been looking for in an E bike is as follows:
a foldable ebike with both pas and throttle
budget: max amount $700 plus tax

20&#; wheels but NOT fat tires because from the research I&#;ve done they only seem to add weight to the bike and drain the battery more. but I have a feeling I&#;m going to have to let this go because I can&#;t seem to find any bike this size anymore without fat tires

A battery that can last for about 20 miles round-trip, and hold a charge for at least eight hours because when I get to work I might not have a place to plug it in. what amph size is good for this? ive seen 7.8amp/hr and 10.4amph. i&#;m guessing bigger is better but then there is the difference between 36 V and 48v as well so a bit confusing. plus i want the battery inside the frame so it will be better protected; NO under the seat, in the seat pole or on the outside or front

500watt motor; peak about 750 and it can only go 20mph (because where I live that is the max you can have) Which is OK because I don&#;t care about going fast, I just want to be able to get from point A to point B; also I don&#;t need to tackle big inclines but I wanted to be able to ride uphill just using the throttle. and im gonna be on pavement or paved bike path

lights on front and back (although can maybe purchase rear light later)

and after about three months of searching i did manage to find these two bikes but I&#;m having trouble deciding between them mainly because of the mixed reviews.
they are both on Amazon. This one is by a company called Vivi

this one is by a company called Veefa

they are both 20 inch foldable bikes with the battery inside the frame,rack and lights. but
Vivi (cheaper of the two)
con: only has 48v 7.8 amp battery
pro: tires are only 2.4&#; wide bike weight 55ibs (so not too heavy but would prefer lighter)
Veefa
Pros: has a 48v 10.4 amp battery
con: has 3&#; fat tires so weighs more; 57ibs

so here&#;s what I&#;m wondering, Should I choose the one with the bigger battery since I want the battery to last longer? However since the one with the bigger battery has the bigger tires which makes it weigh more is it going to drain the battery therefore making a bigger battery obsolete and in that case should I go with the cheaper bike?
Any advice about these two would be appreciated or if you can think of something better than these two please let me know as well. Thank you in advance
hi I&#;m new to this whole Ebikes thing and so I need a little bit of advice ASAP about purchasing my first E bike. I&#;ve done some research myself but it&#;s been hard going.
I am a 50 year old woman in need of an E bike in order to commute to work five days a week. ideally, what I had been looking for in an E bike is as follows:
a foldable ebike with both pas and throttle
budget: max amount $700 plus tax

20&#; wheels but NOT fat tires because from the research I&#;ve done they only seem to add weight to the bike and drain the battery more. but I have a feeling I&#;m going to have to let this go because I can&#;t seem to find any bike this size anymore without fat tires

A battery that can last for about 20 miles round-trip, and hold a charge for at least eight hours because when I get to work I might not have a place to plug it in. what amph size is good for this? ive seen 7.8amp/hr and 10.4amph. i&#;m guessing bigger is better but then there is the difference between 36 V and 48v as well so a bit confusing. plus i want the battery inside the frame so it will be better protected; NO under the seat, in the seat pole or on the outside or front

500watt motor; peak about 750 and it can only go 20mph (because where I live that is the max you can have) Which is OK because I don&#;t care about going fast, I just want to be able to get from point A to point B; also I don&#;t need to tackle big inclines but I wanted to be able to ride uphill just using the throttle. and im gonna be on pavement or paved bike path

lights on front and back (although can maybe purchase rear light later)

and after about three months of searching i did manage to find these two bikes but I&#;m having trouble deciding between them mainly because of the mixed reviews.
they are both on Amazon. This one is by a company called Vivi

this one is by a company called Veefa

they are both 20 inch foldable bikes with the battery inside the frame,rack and lights. but
Vivi (cheaper of the two)
con: only has 48v 7.8 amp battery
pro: tires are only 2.4&#; wide bike weight 55ibs (so not too heavy but would prefer lighter)
Veefa
Pros: has a 48v 10.4 amp battery
con: has 3&#; fat tires so weighs more; 57ibs

so here&#;s what I&#;m wondering, Should I choose the one with the bigger battery since I want the battery to last longer? However since the one with the bigger battery has the bigger tires which makes it weigh more is it going to drain the battery therefore making a bigger battery obsolete and in that case should I go with the cheaper bike?
Any advice about these two would be appreciated or if you can think of something better than these two please let me know as well. Thank you in advance
I do not have any experience on the folders like many riders here, we buy a lot of stuff from Amazon, but a ebike wouldn&#;t be one of them, if you cannot buy from a local bike shop, then the mentioned Iectric or the Ride1up Portola are good choices for a bit higher cost, well worth it in my opinion, maybe check facebook marketplace in your area,.. good luck in your search

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I consider 3" semi-fat but I see your point in wanting something normal sized. A few questions so we can help you further.
How do you plan on charging this ebike? Easy removal might be important.
Is it to be parked outside in a sketchy area? Good security might be needed.
Do these Amazon ebikes have UL Certification? Mainly on the battery.
Its always better to go bigger on the battery so you don't get range anxiety.
If the weight is carried low its not a problem unless you have to carry it.
Do you have a set budget?
To dab a toe in the ebike world you can go 2 ways. Buy a trusted DTC ebike like a Lectric, Rad, Aventon. Some local bike shops even carry these brands now! Or spend a tad more and get a bike shop brand. REI sells their own house brand now. No folders at last check. Note that folders are usually a chore to fold, so if not fully needed you might be able to pass on that option?
I gave away a Lectric XP 3.0 ($899) recently. Great ebike but I hated the battery in the frame when removing it was needed. I almost purchased a Ride1Up Portola ($999) but ended up getting a Lectric ONE long-range battery model. My commute is 15 miles each way, secure parking upon arrival and I can charge the battery at my desk.
thanks for the recommendations but i cannot go higher than my budget of $700 at this time. to answer your other questions I plan on charging this battery outside the bike, hopefully at work but depends on what my boss says, so I need it to be removable. I also am going to have to park it outside in an Arizona sun because work wont let is put them inside even if its folded. however where I work, I&#;m not worried about security as much as I am the weather baking the crap out of the tires and /or other components so I will be getting a tarp to put over it for the six hours I am at work. as far as security where I live this was one of the reasons I want a fold up one because I live in an apartment and I definitely do not want to leave it outside even if its locked up.
I consider 3" semi-fat but I see your point in wanting something normal sized. A few questions so we can help you further.
How do you plan on charging this ebike? Easy removal might be important.
Is it to be parked outside in a sketchy area? Good security might be needed.
Do these Amazon ebikes have UL Certification? Mainly on the battery.
Its always better to go bigger on the battery so you don't get range anxiety.
If the weight is carried low its not a problem unless you have to carry it.
Do you have a set budget?
To dab a toe in the ebike world you can go 2 ways. Buy a trusted DTC ebike like a Lectric, Rad, Aventon. Some local bike shops even carry these brands now! Or spend a tad more and get a bike shop brand. REI sells their own house brand now. No folders at last check. Note that folders are usually a chore to fold, so if not fully needed you might be able to pass on that option?
I gave away a Lectric XP 3.0 ($899) recently. Great ebike but I hated the battery in the frame when removing it was needed. I almost purchased a Ride1Up Portola ($999) but ended up getting a Lectric ONE long-range battery model. My commute is 15 miles each way, secure parking upon arrival and I can charge the battery at my desk.
thank you so much for your recommendations however I&#;m afraid I can&#;t go beyond my budget of $700 right now because of some unforeseen expenses that have come up.
as for the battery being removable yes I do need it to be removable because hopefully I can plug it in at work but it depends on what my boss says. also at work it&#;s going to be parked outside unfortunately in the hot Arizona sun which means I&#;m going to have to get a tarp so that the tires and other components aren&#;t ruined by the heat. which is also why I would want to remove the battery while I&#;m at work for that reason as well. and they also have a thing about not letting you put your bike inside even if it&#;s foldable. I wanted the foldable one because I live in an apartment and I have no wish to keep it outside even locked up so I needed to be able to fit it in my place. as far as security goes at work it should be fine it&#;s more just about the weather taking its toll overtime five days a week six hours a day.
as for the weight being in a low position did you mean as in the frame where the battery sits is lower than the handle bars cause i think it is; my nervous Nellie self is just concerned about being able to control 57 pounds of bicycle after being used to a regular maybe 30 pounds of bicycle.
and unfortunately as for bike shops, my town only has two and only one of them has a 20 inch foldable bike and they only have the one model which I believe is Troxxus? for $ with tax. it has the same battery size and the 3 inch fat tires like the one I saw on amazon for cheaper. all the other bikes in the shop and the other shop are not foldable, 26 inch and mostly with fat tires as well and they are all about the same price or even more than that. as for a Walmart or even target as well they carry no electric bikes in stock everything would have to be ordered online. out of desperation I tried them and even Best Buy and our Best Buy also does not have anything in stock and even if they did the bikes are $ and over.

Share your ebike and recommend good one for me

1) I'm currently navigating the overwhelming array of e-bike options to find the most suitable one for my daily work commute. With countless brands available, it's challenging to make a decision. Could someone provide a curated list of the top 5 or top 10 e-bike companies they recommend, highlighting the specifications I should prioritize?

I've discovered an e-bike that appears to be reasonably priced. Nevertheless, it comes with a battery capacity of only 346Wh, offering a range of less than 50 miles. It showcases an anti-theft system complete with an app for unlocking and locking, bike tracking, a motion sensor, and the added functionality of alerting you if someone attempts to tamper with or move the locked bike. This leaves me pondering whether these features truly warrant the excitement, or if I should consider a more conventional e-bike option instead.
what's your opinion on this e-bike if I consider on buying it?

2) Also, please share these things if you own an ebike(s)

  • Brand / Model
  • Cost
    • $= <$
    • $$= $-$
    • $$$=$-$
    • $$$$=$-$
    • $$$$$=>$
  • Satisfied?
    • Very
    • Somewhat
    • Not
  • Would you recommend to others? (Y/N)
There are some questions I'd want answers to before advising you:
  1. In which country do you live? I'm guessing USA by your avatar...
  2. Do you live in a city, suburbs or countryside?
  3. What do your local eBike laws say? (they vary by state, and sometimes by city as well)
  4. What's your budget?
  5. What are your expected uses? (Commuting, shopping, joyriding, streets vs. paved trails vs. unpaved trails, etc.)
As for your 2nd part of your post (in bold text) it seems you copied that from another thread, so you can just find my posts in that thread for that information.

For your thread here, answers to my questions above will help us make recommendations specifically for you. I found the reviewer eBike Escape helpful, here is a link to his website where he compares "the Top Ebike Brands of : Our Favorites List": https://ebikeescape.com/top-ebike-brands/.

I ended up with an Aventon Level.2 step through (white), partly because they sell and service the Aventons at a local bike shop that I have used for a number of years; in fact, that might be a criteria to add to your list. It was very helpful to do a test ride before purchase so I was not just crunching numbers on a spreadsheet. Here is my information:
  • Brand / Model: Aventon Level.2
  • Cost: $$ ($1,599)
  • Satisfied? Very
  • Would you recommend to others? Y
There are a complex array of considerations for an Ebike including:
  • Frame style (step over, step through, folding)
  • Tire configuration (road, fat tire, tubeless)
  • Primary use (commuting, cruiser, mountain biking, hauling/cargo)
  • Sensor technology (cadence or torque sensing)
  • Throttle or no throttle
  • Display or no display
  • Frame material (usually aluminum) and single or double butted
  • Motor placement (rear hub, front hub, mid drive, multiple motors)
  • Motor Watts (plus legal limitations in your state/country) with 500-750W being most common
  • Drive system (derailleur or single speed)
  • Brake type (most ebikes have disk brakes, mechanical or hydraulic)
  • Quality of bicycle components
  • Ease of shifting, if multi-speed
  • Real-world range between charges (versus stated range under ideal conditions)
  • Etc.
One method of narrowing ebike choices would be to decide what you need based on a list like this. I created a spreadsheet and compared various ebike specs.

I know from your post you've made an initial choice of an Evie bike and cite their built in security features. Keep in mind, however, you can buy a bike alarm for about $18 HERE; an Apple AirTag for under $30 HERE or a combined alarm and tracker for $60 HERE. There are U-locks available that go a long ways in defeating angle grinder attacks (which in general can cut any lock), such as the LiteLok X1 ($200, I have one)or especially the LiteLok X3 ($300) - not cheap but better than buying a new ebike. This will be a much better security than the cafe lock on the Evie bike.

But, the important thing is, if that's what you want, then go for it - it's your decision!! Best of luck in your research.
Looks like OP is in Denmark despite avatar of US map. Might also explain phrasing of questions. Denmark should have some good riding though.
Ah, that would have been useful information to know up front.

I don't really know what's available in Denmark or even what the country-specific eBike laws are. (that would also be helpful)

It seems like the Danes can have Speed Pedelecs even on bike paths. [LINK]

Do you want a bicycle with assist, or do you want a high power speed pedelec? That's the first question and the next place is what's available to you?

No answers to my questions yet? Through sleuthing, we have answered my questions 1 & 3. Still need to know the answers to 2, 4 and 5.
Ah, that would have been useful information to know up front.

I don't really know what's available in Denmark or even what the country-specific eBike laws are. (that would also be helpful)

It seems like the Danes can have Speed Pedelecs even on bike paths. [LINK]

Do you want a bicycle with assist, or do you want a high power speed pedelec? That's the first question and the next place is what's available to you?

No answers to my questions yet? Through sleuthing, we have answered my questions 1 & 3. Still need to know the answers to 2, 4 and 5.
2. I live in the city. New York to be precise, got a job offer that starts next month. due to that, I know the traffic there can be very bad thus that's why I am looking for an ebike.
4. probably not more than $ but depending on the bikes specs. That's why i made my dig on ebike
5. I would probably use as daily transportation, commuting to work, shops, cafes or anywhere. i guess so
2. I live in the city. New York to be precise, got a job offer that starts next month. due to that, I know the traffic there can be very bad thus that's why I am looking for an ebike.
4. probably not more than $ but depending on the bikes specs. That's why i made my dig on ebike
5. I would probably use as daily transportation, commuting to work, shops, cafes or anywhere. i guess so
Ah, OK. Now we have a complete picture.

I would recommend the Aventon Level.2. It seems to fit your needs just about perfectly. I have one and use it for commuting in my medium sized city. It has rack & fenders as standard equipment, as well as integrated lighting. (3 rear lights!) I paid $ for mine from a local shop last year, but the price is down now to $ or so. It is good quality all-around and has the safety certifications needed to be sold in NYC.

Even at this price, it is on the expensive side, so do invest in a good lock if you're going to leave it outside. In NYC, I'd recommend a good U-lock at a minimum.

I replaced the quick-release seat post latch with one that needs a tool, as otherwise, people will steal your seat when it's parked.

I started a thread and made a few videos on mine, you can see it here: https://ebikesforum.com/threads/aventon-level-2-review-thread./

User "A" here rides frequently in NYC, you might reach out to him via PM for considerations specific to NYC. Does new job allow you to take the bike into the building?
If so, that can reduce a lot of worries about locking the bike up properly to avoid theft.
What is the distance to the new job? distance would determine how big of a battery you need.
If your commute is about 5-6 miles one way, 25 mile ranger on a small folding ebike would do,
with a folding ebike you can easily take it onto subway when weather is crappy.
Smaller folding bike take up less room, smaller footprint on the road, less likely to get hit in NYC traffic.

My commute is about 5-6 mile one way, I just ride a regular folding bike, no motor, no battery.. about 20 lb.
I've commuting on folding bikes between Manhattan & Brooklyn (Coney Island.) since , plenty of trips that I didn't feel like riding
and took my bike onto the subway, secure the bike against the pole next to the door and sit down for a nap.
I've tried folding ebikes, but the weight of battery & motor make them cumbersome to take on-off subway stations.

Wife & I have been riding folding ebikes just around Hoboken area, which is less hectic than within the 5-boro.
Both bikes below are under $1K back in or so.


If you're carrying more items on the ebike, I'd recommend a compact cargo ebike, for the fat tires would save you from the spokes braking.
I carry large volume of food in boxes between the school I work and homeless shelter in Brooklyn.
10-12 mile round trip and the Fiido T1 (under $2k) has served me well.
Cast wheel without spokes to break under motor power or rough terrain (potholes) in NYC.
Large battery that allow me to ride at least 50 miles (throttle only), weeks between each charging is possible.
Larger ebike would also deter some theft, but locking it up properly may need some practice.
1) I'm currently navigating the overwhelming array of e-bike options to find the most suitable one for my daily work commute. With countless brands available, it's challenging to make a decision. Could someone provide a curated list of the top 5 or top 10 e-bike companies they recommend, highlighting the specifications I should prioritize?

I've discovered an e-bike that appears to be reasonably priced. Nevertheless, it comes with a battery capacity of only 346Wh, offering a range of less than 50 miles. It showcases an anti-theft system complete with an app for unlocking and locking, bike tracking, a motion sensor, and the added functionality of alerting you if someone attempts to tamper with or move the locked bike. This leaves me pondering whether these features truly warrant the excitement, or if I should consider a more conventional e-bike option instead.
what's your opinion on this e-bike if I consider on buying it?

2) Also, please share these things if you own an ebike(s)

  • Brand / Model
  • Cost
    • $= <$
    • $$= $-$
    • $$$=$-$
    • $$$$=$-$
    • $$$$$=>$
  • Satisfied?
    • Very
    • Somewhat
    • Not
  • Would you recommend to others? (Y/N)
If it's your 1st ebike, go with some fairly cheap. No point ruining a $5K bike thru inexperience The question is more what are your minimum requirements for how and where you&#;re going to ride? Hilly or flat?
How are you going to get it to where you&#;ll ride? How big are you? How far will you go without recharging?
I&#;m on my second ebike and still didn&#;t get it quite right.
For me: 750 watts, 15 ah battery, hydraulic brakes. My first bike was too small and my current bike is, if anything, too big.
For a starter I&#;d recommend a folder with 20 inch wheels. Easier to transport and you can put your feet on the ground while seated. If you can, buy one from a local guy even though you&#;ll pay more. Read the actual warranty before you buy.
If you buy local, get a test ride. Hope this helps a little.
The question is more what are your minimum requirements for how and where you&#;re going to ride? Hilly or flat?
How are you going to get it to where you&#;ll ride? How big are you? How far will you go without recharging?
I&#;m on my second ebike and still didn&#;t get it quite right.
For me: 750 watts, 15 ah battery, hydraulic brakes. My first bike was too small and my current bike is, if anything, too big.
For a starter I&#;d recommend a folder with 20 inch wheels. Easier to transport and you can put your feet on the ground while seated. If you can, buy one from a local guy even though you&#;ll pay more. Read the actual warranty before you buy.
If you buy local, get a test ride. Hope this helps a little.
Excellent points.
What's the top speed on your Fiido T1? I just looked on their website, and it says 15.5 mph. That's pretty slow, it would be a wonder they sell ANY of them in the USA...

I see they have a T1 Pro now, where the Pro has hydraulic brakes for only $500 extra... Same specs otherwise.

Not sure about the top speed, it is highly dependent on the weight I carry on the bike.
I'd think 28 mph is probably the top speed with throttle.
I know the replacement T1 (for frame recall) has smoother acceleration than the original.
I think the info of 15.5 mph top speed is the unlocked top speed, that info in the website is mainly to satisfy regulations.
There are YT videos on how to unlock the T1 for higher top speed for 28 mph.

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